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The nationals are coming for your clients. Consolidation is crushing margins. And if you’re not keeping up with the latest in the payroll and HR industry, you’re going to get left behind.
Welcome to Payrollin’. The no-BS podcast for independent payroll bureau owners and leaders who are done getting squeezed by ADP, Paychex, and the private equity machines swallowing up the industry.
Hosted by Matt Vaadi, founder of guHRoo (a PEO) and Outsourced Scale (offshore staffing for payroll providers), this show delivers the strategies you need to survive — and thrive — while the middle collapses around you.
Every week, you’ll get:
→ Industry intel on the billion-dollar deals reshaping payroll
→ Proven tactics to scale past the 7-figure barrier
→ Real talk on margins, pricing, and profitability
→ Strategies to compete without killing your bottom line
→ Guests who’ve sold, scaled, or disrupted the status quo
Whether you’re fighting margin compression, exploring industry partnerships, or figuring out how to scale without sacrificing service, this podcast cuts through the corporate speak and gives you actionable pathways forward.
Because if you’re not specializing in a niche or adding serious value beyond commoditized payroll, you’re racing to the bottom.
Subscribe to Payrollin’ and join 1,000+ payroll industry professionals who get the Wednesday newsletter breaking down what’s happening in the industry — and what it means for your business.
Join the show live every Thursday for a conversation you can’t find anywhere else: https://grow.payrollinpodcast.com/
Are you spending too much time chasing new payroll clients while ignoring the revenue already sitting in your client base?
Most payroll providers focus heavily on new sales, but the data tells a different story. ADP expects roughly 50% of its new revenue to come from existing customers, and when they expand a payroll client into HR, ASO, or PEO services, the lifetime value can increase dramatically.
In this episode of The Payroll Growth Show, Matt Vaadi breaks down how payroll companies can generate more revenue, improve retention, and create deeper client relationships without increasing their marketing budget.
You’ll learn:
• Why existing clients may be your biggest growth opportunity
• How to identify “white space” opportunities in your client base
• A simple framework for payroll, HR, benefits, workers’ comp, and time-tracking upsells
• How quarterly business reviews (QBRs) can drive revenue growth
• Ways to use AI to uncover buying signals and retention risks
• Common mistakes payroll firms make when expanding services
• Practical strategies you can implement immediately
Whether you’re an independent payroll bureau, PEO, CPA firm, HR provider, or payroll sales leader, this episode offers actionable ideas for increasing client lifetime value and growing revenue from the customers you already serve.
⏰ *TIMESTAMPS:*
0:00 Why ADP Gets 50% of Revenue from Existing Clients
2:02 The Growth Grid Explained
4:31 Finding Hidden Revenue in Your Client Base
6:06 The Simple Upsell Conversation Framework
6:57 The ADP Playbook: $450K from 180 Accounts
9:48 Using AI to Find Buying Signals
12:26 Quarterly Business Reviews That Drive Growth
14:40 Predicting Client Churn with AI
15:39 One-to-Many Upsell Strategies
18:02 The 50/50 Growth Model for Payroll Companies
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🎯 *THIS WEEK’S RESOURCE:*
💼Three Keys to Expand Your Payroll Business. Learn the top tactics to scale and grow your payroll company
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